2 P's in a Pod

2 P’s in a Pod is a 420-friendly, bookworm podcast chronicling the work we do at defactobooks.com as well as sharing our travels inspired by the literature from our book clubs. You will also get to hear from our de facto authors as we travel to Texas prison on visits.  


Hosts: J. Nicholee & Vdiggitydawg

Sound Designed and Engineered by Derek B

Theme song by Imperial Soul Music Productions


J.Nicholee aka Jasmen is de facto’s right hand. Brand ambassador, content creator, research specialist, and co-host of 2 P’s in a Pod, she does it all. Not only is J.Nicholee a de facto badie, but she is also a full-time mom, ocean life advocate, and real estate investor.

Check her out @j.nicholee on IG.




Vanessa aka Vdiggitydawg is de facto’s left hand. Co-founder and CEO of daily operations mean making sure our inside team is getting books and mail, and the publishing company is always creating. Vanessa has been a full-time educator, consultant, and literacy mentor for 20 years. Our own J. Nicholee was one of the first students to graduate from her class.  






2P’s came about in 2022 out of a need to dig deeper into the literature we were reading in our book clubs. As ambassadors to members who happen to be incarcerated, it has been our desire to cultivate experiences where our members can contribute to the community we have created outside of the prison system. By traveling to each prison unit where our members reside, and giving them a voice on the podcast our listeners can fully engage with the work we do, as well as help provide an outlet for those who have been forgotten by many aspects of society. 

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